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Market Update – September 24, 2010

September 25th, 2010 Comments off

This week’s overview of what’s happened in the M Coupe market.

Currently Listed: 74
S52: 44
S54: 30
Average Asking Price: $24,329.55
S52: $19,440.37
S54: $31,011.43

Most Popular Sales Listings

These are the cars that have been viewed most often this week:

2001 Steel Gray over Imola Red in Glendale, CA

2001 Steel Gray over Imola Red
Glendale, CA - $18,900

1999 Estoril Blue over Black in Columbia, MO

1999 Estoril Blue over Black
Columbia, MO - $14,900

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Cincinnati, OH

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Cincinnati, OH - $27,500

2001 Estoril Blue over Dark Gray in Franklin, TN

2001 Estoril Blue over Dark Gray
Franklin, TN - $34,000

Best Deals

These are what I think are the best deals still available that are not already on the most popular list.

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Pittsburgh, PA

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Pittsburgh, PA - $22,000

1999 Cosmos Black over Black in Bay Area, CA

1999 Cosmos Black over Black
Bay Area, CA - $12,500

1999 Arctic Silver over Dark Gray in Bedford, TX

1999 Arctic Silver over Dark Gray
Bedford, TX - $21,300

2002 Titanium Silver over Black in Pearland, TX

2002 Titanium Silver over Black
Pearland, TX - $27,000

Sold This Week

Here are the cars that appear to have gone to lucky new owners this week.

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M Coupe Hats and Beanies

September 23rd, 2010 Comments off

M Coupes are a small market, so it’s not often you come across M Coupe stuff. So when opportunities come along, you need to take them. Ben Carufel of Bimmerforums made these very nice embroidered hats and beanies late last year.  He’s got a few left and these will probably be his last batch so act now. He has both fitted caps and beanies and best of all they’re free! Just pay $25 shipping :). Check this Bimmerforums thread to see what’s in stock.

If you want one (or more), email coupehats@gmail.com and you’ll get an automated reply with instructions. M Roadster versions are also available.

M Coupe Fitted Cap

M Coupe Beanie

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1st Annual MCBG End of Summer BBQ

September 17th, 2010 3 comments

When our coupe did not arrive in time for the final Bimmer Burger Night of the summer, my amazing wife suggested we should just host our own BBQ to introduce our coupe to the world. Our coupe came at kind of a busy point in our lives, so we sent out the invites the day before. Amazingly we were able to find a few takers on such short notice. We then thought, “We should do this every year and make it an annual thing.” Hence it became the 1st Annual M Coupe Buyers Guide End of Summer BBQ. We had so much fun, we may need to institute a Fall BBQ, Spring BBQ, Beginning of Summer BBQ, and Mid-Summer BBQ.

Our attendees included Glenn with his 2002 Steel Gray over Imola Red sunroof-delete M Coupe with only 7,000 miles, Lindsey with his 2000 Cosmos Black over Dark Gray sunroof-delete M Coupe, and Colby with his 2002 Alpine White over Imola Red M Roadster. My little sister Lindsay also stopped by to hang out, see my coupe, and take some photos. I’m not sure why they say sunroof-deletes are so rare; I was the only one there with a sunroof :). Next time, we’ll try to plan ahead a little better so some others will be able to make it.

My driveway became something out of an Z3 M lover’s fantasy. We all stood in the street and giggled at the sight. Colby brought his very nice camera and the results are below:

Let me know if you’d like a higher resolution version of any of the photos.

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Market Update – September 17, 2010

September 17th, 2010 Comments off

This week’s overview of what’s happened in the M Coupe market.

Currently Listed: 67
S52: 38
S54: 29
Average Asking Price: $25,442.43
S52: $20,086.91
S54: $31,721.31

Most Popular Sales Listings

These are the cars that have been viewed most often this week:

2000 Titanium Silver over Black in Oregon City, OR

2000 Titanium Silver over Black
Oregon City, OR - Unknown

2002 Steel Gray over Dark Gray in Honolulu, HI

2002 Steel Gray over Dark Gray
Honolulu, HI - $32,500

2000 Alpine White over Black in Naperville, IL

2000 Alpine White over Black
Naperville, IL - Unknown

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Pittsburgh, PA

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Pittsburgh, PA - $22,000

Best Deals

These are what I think are the best deals still available that are not already on the most popular list.

2001 Titanium Silver over Dark Gray in St. Louis, MO

2001 Titanium Silver over Dark Gray
St. Louis, MO - $28,000

1999 Arctic Silver over Dark Gray in Bedford, TX

1999 Arctic Silver over Dark Gray
Bedford, TX - $21,300

2002 Titanium Silver over Black in Pearland, TX

2002 Titanium Silver over Black
Pearland, TX - $27,500

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Cincinnati, OH

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Cincinnati, OH - $27,500

Sold This Week

Here are the cars that appear to have gone to lucky new owners this week.

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Separated at Birth?

September 17th, 2010 Comments off

Produced just 13 days and 22 cars apart in October 2001, Glenn and my M Coupes (#39 and #17 of 2002 and the first of the year in this color combination) could have shared time together before being shipped out. It really was amazing to see them next to each other again almost 9 years later. They are near spitting images of each other. Besides Glenn’s rare sunroof-delete option and my European clear bumper lights, not a lot separates them from the outside. One interesting thing we did note – that we wouldn’t have if they weren’t parked within feet of each other – is that Glenn’s shadow chrome roadstar wheels were noticeably darker than mine. On the inside, Glenn’s driver seat bolster is the definition of perfection and about the only one that could make mine look less so. I have the 6-disc changer in the trunk and an alarm LED in the center console, but those are about the only noticeable differences.

Back in February, I was beginning to give up hope of ever finding a steel gray over imola red M Coupe and thinking of settling. When Glenn was nice enough to let me come down and gawk at his coupe, my fortitude to press on with my search was renewed. Now that I have finally found one, I’m so glad I held out all these years.

Thanks to Colby Gregory for taking all these amazing photos.

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First Photoshoot

September 17th, 2010 1 comment

Last Saturday, we had a mini get together at my house, and Colby Gregory as well as my sister Lindsay took some great shots of my new coupe. Enjoy!

That last photo will need to be retaken now that Colby has polished out every last one of those imperfections :).

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Is the Coupe a Future Classic?

September 16th, 2010 Comments off
M Coupes at Sunset

M Coupes at Sunset - Photo Courtesy of Colby Gregory

I’m in Steamboat, CO on a mini-vacation for 3 days. We went downtown for lunch today and an unbelievable group of cars drove by while we were parking and getting the stroller out (obviously not in the coupe). This group included (in order that I saw them):

You may need to click this link first, before the above links will work.

Some of these I recognized, some I’ve looked up since getting home. I eventually got a good look at a decal each of them had on their fender and figured out they were part of the Colorado Grand Car Rally. I went through the website’s gallery of last year’s rally and found many of the cars I saw which helped me identify the ones I didn’t recognize. I’ve linked each of cars above to the photo gallery of the actual car I saw. They were unbelievable in person as you’d imagine.

After we got back to our condo to put our kids down for naps, I decided I may never see some of these cars again and went back out to drive around town and see if I could find any others. My search wasn’t very fruitful as they all had seemed to move on from town after lunch. Just when I had given up and was getting on a back road to come back home, the Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato followed by a Ferrari 250 GT pulled out right in front of me! I got to follow them on a meandering road along the river for a couple miles before they roared onto the highway out of town. It’s probably something I’ll never forget.

I know the M Coupe will never have the panache of a Ferrari, Bentley or Aston Martin, but I couldn’t help but think if I had been driving my coupe, I would have caught the eyes of these most discerning auto enthusiasts. Last weekend, while driving to grab a few groceries, I had a 997 Turbo owner almost turning around in his seat to ogle  my car at a stoplight. The casual observer may say it’s weird looking, but most true auto enthusiasts appreciate the coupe’s unique design and sense of purpose. Many of the classic cars I saw today would not be labeled classically beautiful by most, but as an enthusiast I could stare at each in detail for hours. All the cars I saw were pre-1961 (as the rally rules dictate), but some of them looked like they could have been built yesterday. The designs are timeless. It’s this feature along with it’s low production numbers that I think could make the M Coupe a classic someday. It looks like nothing else on the road; it didn’t follow many of the contemporary design trends; the casual observer has no idea that it’s already a 12+ year-old design. I think some of the same will apply when it’s 50 years-old. You need to apply to be in the $5500 Colorado Grand Rally. It’s my personal opinion that my relatively humble M Coupe will someday be accepted.

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Worth the Wait!

September 12th, 2010 7 comments

Front 3/4

My apologies for the lack of updates. My new coupe arrived safe and sound on Thursday at 1 PM. I’ve been driving it about every free moment since including a 4:30-6:30 AM drive through local canyons the following morning. After my previous shipping update, the driver was much better about consistently updating us and even called when he was a mile out to give me a play by play as he got closer and honked as he drove through our subdivision. It arrived from its several thousand mile journey in good shape but dirty. After a very quick wash, my wife and I took it up to a local canyon to try it out. We both had a blast. I think it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I’m very glad I held out for just the right one. I can’t stop staring at it and look for excuses to sneak out to the garage. It was definitely worth the wait!

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Market Update – September 10, 2010

September 12th, 2010 Comments off

This week’s overview of what’s happened in the M Coupe market.

Currently Listed: 67
S52: 39
S54: 28
Average Asking Price: $25,735.55
S52: $20,618.19
S54: $32,315,00

Most Popular Sales Listings

These are the cars that have been viewed most often this week:

2000 Alpine White over Black in Naperville, IL

2000 Alpine White over Black
Naperville, IL - Unknown

1999 Imola Red over Imola Red in Wilson, NC

1999 Imola Red over Imola Red
Wilson, NC - $15,995

2000 Oxford Green over Black in Santa Ana, CA

2000 Oxford Green over Black
Santa Ana, CA - $16,000

2000 Estoril Blue over Estoril Blue in Spring, TX

2000 Estoril Blue over Estoril Blue
Spring, TX - $19,995

Best Deals

These are what I think are the best deals still available that are not already on the most popular list.

2000 Titanium Silver over Black in Gilbert, AZ

2000 Titanium Silver over Black
Gilbert, AZ - $19,500

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Pittsburgh, PA

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Pittsburgh, PA - $24,500

2002 Titanium Silver over Black in Pearland, TX

2002 Titanium Silver over Black
Pearland, TX - $27,500

2000 Estoril Blue over Estoril Blue in Cincinnati, OH

2000 Estoril Blue over Estoril Blue
Cincinnati, OH - $15,990

Sold This Week

Here are the cars that appear to have gone to lucky new owners this week.

* Sold within the week

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A Shipping Saga – Part 2

September 8th, 2010 6 comments

The saga continues… Monday afternoon I received word from the dealership owner that the truck was fixed and headed this way. The driver called and said he planned to drive as far as possible Monday night, hit it hard on Tuesday, and should be here by Wednesday. It’s not going to happen, but it’s not really his fault this time. He just called to let me know a couple hours ago he was randomly selected for an Inspection 2 at a weigh station in Iowa and they found a couple minor things he has to fix before they’ll let him continue. He said things should be straightened out soon, and he’ll be on his way again. He’s still 665 miles away, so I’m pretty sure he won’t make it today, but I feel like I’m getting the truth now. He even sent me a couple photos while he was waiting for his truck to get fixed. The coupe looks good, and I’m glad to see the dealership didn’t put on a tacky logo! It also seems to be in ok company. I think I can see an Audi behind it, BMW above it, and Cadillac DTS in front of it. One more day…

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A Shipping Saga

September 6th, 2010 6 comments

The following story may be hard to fathom, but believe me, I’m not creative enough to make it up. It all started when an independent transport driver, contracted in the past by the dealership I bought my coupe from, overheard them saying they needed to get a car out to Colorado. He told them he could pick it up as soon as it was ready and could do it cheaper since he was headed this direction anyway. The dealer knew my budget was stretched and I wanted it as soon as possible(we split the shipping cost 50:50). They knew and trusted the driver from past experiences but because it was a long trip verified his insurance through the VIN number on his truck, double-checked that his license was up to date, etc. and everything checked out fine.

The M Coupe was promptly picked up as promised on Saturday, August 21st within 24 hours of my check arriving. They were told, and passed along to me, that it should be in my driveway by the end of the next week. I thought perfect, it will hopefully get here just in time for the final Bimmer Burger Night that Thursday. People on Bimmerforums were asking me Thursday morning if it was going to be there, so I got the driver’s number from the dealership so I could check on his progress. I hoped it would be there that day but understood if it wouldn’t be till Friday or even Saturday. I was planning on going to a local Porsche/Audi show on Sunday with a friend, and assumed it would be here at least by then. The first thing he said was “I should have it to you sometime next week”. Hmm… I said, “so…Monday?”. He replied, “Monday to Wednesday. My dispatcher has been running me around, and I’m still in Alabama headed towards Texas. I’ll have it in your driveway on Wednesday at the latest.” I thought, well, I guess I’ll miss those two events, but I’m still getting an M Coupe.

Monday and Tuesday I left the window of my office cracked so I would hear any approaching diesels just in case. On that Tuesday, September 1st, I called again to make sure everything was still on track for Wednesday. My wife was going to be working Thursday and Friday and really wanted to be here for the coupe’s arrival. He said, “well, I’m still in Houston which is 19 hours away, but if I don’t run into any delays I should get there tomorrow afternoon.” On Wednesday, I was so excited I spent the day watching out my window rather than working. At 4PM, it hadn’t come yet and I hadn’t heard from him, so I called the driver again for an update. He said, “my dispatcher is sending me back to Tennessee to pick up a car, we can get it to you by Saturday if I transfer your car to another truck in Nashville tomorrow.” This is when I started to worry and called the dealership and asked if they thought that sounded funny. My contact at the dealership agreed with me and said he’d get the dealership owner involved.

The dealership owner called me 45 minutes later still huffing and puffing from his “conversations” with the driver and his dispatcher. He told them it was ridiculous to bring my car back east, it’s already a week past the original delivery date, they’re not moving it to a different truck with a driver he wasn’t familiar with, etc. He said after a lot of yelling, the dispatcher eventually promised it would stay on the truck with the original driver and be here by Saturday. There wasn’t much else I could do, so I decided just to wait for this Saturday. I figured my wife will be off work, it’s a long weekend, it will be fun to have a few days to drive it without worrying about my own work.

On Saturday morning I hadn’t heard anything else, so I called to check in and see where it was. I was pleasantly surprised to hear the driver say he was in Denver. I was kind of afraid to ask, but just to make sure I asked if it would make it up to Fort Collins that day. He said he had two deliveries in the Denver area but thought he “should” make it by that afternoon. Around 5 o’clock that evening, after spending most of the day hanging out in the garage and driveway with my family waiting for it to come, I gave him another call. He said he couldn’t make it that night because he was running on Eastern time and had to call it a day. This sounded ridiculous to me being only an hour away all day and not making it up to Fort Collins. I called him back a few minutes later and asked where in Denver he was at. He said “South side”. I said, “All I’ve done all day is wait around for you; I’m not doing anything, we’ll just drive down and pick it up and save you the trouble of having to deliver it tomorrow.” He said “Not tonight, I need to go to bed. I’ll be there by lunchtime tomorrow.” What the heck?

I was pretty confident we would probably be getting the car today. I wore my “A Lot Like Nothing Else” t-shirt to church and my mother-in-law drove up from Denver to watch the kids so we could go for a drive when it arrived. We hurried home from church this morning, grabbed lunch on the way home, and ate it in the garage/driveway with the camera out and charged. 11 o’clock became 12 became 1 became 2… I finally called to ask what time they eat lunch on ‘Eastern time’? No one answered. I then wondered if he was avoiding my calls so I called him from my wife’s phone. He didn’t answer but called it back a minute later and seemed surprised to hear my voice. He said something about his dispatcher making him take a car down to Colorado Springs before bringing mine up to Fort Collins. It was 3:30 at that time, and since I found out the day before that he apparently shuts down at 5 I knew that was never going to happen. I said, “You’ve had my car for 15 days, moved back the delivery time 3 times, my family has spent most of the last week in the front yard waiting for it to arrive, you need to come here first. It’s only 45 minutes from Denver, I live 1/4 mile and 2 turns off the interstate on a through street that my neighbor parks his racing truck and trailer on most weekends. There aren’t any accessibility issues. You can be here and back in 2 hours.” He said he’d call his dispatcher and call me back. He didn’t.

I called my contact at the dealership on his cell phone to give him an update. He at first assumed I was calling with good news, but I wasn’t. He said he’d call the dealership owner and they’d get back to me ASAP.

My wife was getting pretty sick of spending all of our time, including the holiday weekend, waiting around for this guy. She called him herself and left a message. He called her back about an hour later. She went on to ask how he’s been in Denver the past 2 days and not been able to make the drive up to Fort Collins in that time. He said, “I don’t know”.

She asked, “What are you plans for tonight?”

He responded, “I’ll probably get some dinner and go to sleep.” (???)

She said, “Joy (the driver’s name, it’s a guy), we have kids, we can’t keep moving our schedule around for this car that you can’t get here. We have a contract and you’ve had the car for weeks. You said you’d have it here today and you’re going to. I’ll make you dinner when you get here. We have Mountain Dew or Dr. Pepper we can send with you when you leave. We just want the car.”

He kind of laughed, then said, “I’ll do my best”.

“No, you’ve been saying you’ll do your best for the last week and a half and you haven’t.  We need it here tonight. We’re only an hour away. Did something happen to the car? Is there a reason you do not want to deliver it? Just tell us the truth.”

He responded, “No. No, ma’am, the car is fine. I’ve been taking good care of it. I have a lot of people mad at me right now who want their cars. My dispatcher keeps running me around and there’s nothing I can do about it.” Then sounding close to tears, “I’m about to quit. When I got this truck they said I could do what I wanted with it, but now they’re telling me other things. Everyone is mad at me and keeps calling. I should have never taken your contract and you’d probably have your car by now.”

“I’m sorry Joy, but you did take the contract and you said you’d get the car to us, so you need to do it. Where are you physically at right now?”

He said, “South of Denver”.

“Where south of Denver?”

He said, “Pueblo (which is about 2 hours south of Denver and 3 hours south of us and an hour south of the Colorado Springs drop off he had told me about earlier).”

She said, “We need it here tonight. When can you leave to start heading this direction?”

“Probably in about 20 minutes.”

She said, “OK, call me when you are leaving. I’ll be expecting your call in 20 minutes.”

“OK”

She repeated, “OK, I’ll be waiting for your call right next to the phone. Call me in 20 minutes when you are headed this direction.”

“Yes, ma’am.”

At this point, the day was wasted as he wouldn’t get to us until after 9 PM, my mother-in-law had long gone home, but I felt we had finally gotten through to this guy. And was pretty proud of my wife :). We even felt a little bad for the driver.

He didn’t call back, but about a half hour later, the owner of the dealership called me. He said he had talked to the driver. He said he had asked him the same questions over and over until he felt like he gotten the actual truth. He said the driver told him he had blown a turbo and has been on the side of the road waiting to get picked up. That did not match at all with what he had told us, and I’m sure my wife could read the dumbfounded expression on my face. How was he supposed to leave in 20 minutes to get us the coupe tonight and why didn’t he just tell my wife he was broken down? We would have understood.

The dealership owner then dropped the bomb, “he’s also saying he’s just outside of Pittsburgh which I know we can’t believe anything he says at this point, but I’m pretty sure it’s the real truth.” What?!? He continued, “I eventually got his dispatcher’s cell phone number out of him and called to chew him out. He confirmed that the car was in Pennsylvania broken down but says they now have 7 cars on it headed to Colorado and it would be on the road again by tomorrow morning. If it’s not moving by morning I’ll send a guy out to get it off the truck and bring it back to the dealership. We’ll then get it shipped out with a real transport company.” He said at the time they contracted with the driver they thought he was still driving independently and all his paperwork said so; that they didn’t know he was now running for a dispatcher. He apologized for me being in the middle of this whole thing, said they honestly thought they were doing me a favor by getting my car on the first truck out of town, and said they’d find a way to make it up to me.

No compassion for the driver anymore. Everything he’s said from at least Saturday on (if not before) was a lie including his 20 minute “heart-to-heart” with my wife. I’m hoping the truck is still broken down today, so the dealer can catch up to it and get my car safely off.

What I’m pretty sure happened is that this driver really was headed this direction but thought he could pick up my car on the side. His dispatcher then found out he had taken a side job on their truck and has had him running around the country filling his trailer with other cars coming this direction before he’d let him go. I have no idea why the driver said he was in Denver yesterday as there’s no possible way to back that up knowing what we know now. It’s also depressing that all this time the past week – and especially the past couple days – of us thinking it could arrive at any minute were so far from the actual truth. I”m pretty confident that the car itself is ok though.

So long story short, our car has toured the country for 15 days and is only 300 miles from where it originated. Who knows when and how it will actually get here?

To be continued…

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S50 M Coupe vs E39 M5

September 5th, 2010 1 comment
Justin's E39 M5

Justin's E39 M5

Although Justin Cornelison is from my neck of the woods, he’s currently working in Dubai which gives him access to the U.S. forbidden, S50-engined M Coupe. Here’s his comparison of his recently purchased coupe to the E39 M5 he previously owned:

First off, where do I start? These are two completely different cars, with two completely different purposes. I am fortunate enough to have owned both cars (separately), first the M5, now the M Coupe.

Justin's E39 M5

Justin's E39 M5

M5-
The E39 M5 is an astonishing car. The power is always there, the ride is very smooth, and the cabin is quiet (mine had double pane glass, so I’m sure that helped). The M5 came with every option you could possibly want/need (wide-screen navigation, supportive two-tone leather seats, alcantara roof liner, etc…). It was such an amazing car to cruise the highway, and was great to take long trips in. New, they cost around $80,000, and now you can pick a decent one up for $20,000. So there is a lot of car for your money.

Justin's S50 M Coupe

Justin's S50 M Coupe

M Coupe-
The Z3 M Coupe has always been one of my dream cars since I first sat in one when I was 16 years old. The styling is so unique, you either love it or hate it. But if you are on this site, you obviously love it. Mine has the Euro S50 motor, which is rated at 321HP from the factory, so this is what I base my review on. Basically, the M Coupe is more of a Driver’s/Weekend racer type car, if that makes sense.

Driving the Coupe is a completely different experience from the M5. First off, you actually feel like you are going fast, where as the M5 was so smooth and quiet, you have to continuously look at your speedometer to make sure you aren’t going over the speed limit. Shifting is also a different experience in the car for me. The M5 shifted like butter, it was incredibly smooth, but with the Coupe, the shifts are so close together, and the clutch lets up quicker than the M5. The cabin is loud, and the ride is harsh. Performance wise, they are very similar. The M5 has 80 more horses, but also weighs considerably more. With the Coupe’s 7,700rpm rev limit, I think that they would be almost even in a straight line. The only difference is that the S50 in the coupe sounds amazing in the higher revs, where the M5 (stock exhaust, anyways) seemed to sound just a little bit more aggressive than my E38 740. If you have driven either, you know the sound that the M62/S62 makes around 4,000RPM.

Justin's S50 M Coupe

Justin's S50 M Coupe

I am only 24, so if I had to choose on one car I like more should seem obvious. The M Coupe is such a fun car to drive, I find myself just going on drives for the sake of it. I loved the M5, and I do miss it, but it was just the wrong time for me to own that car. If I had kids, or had a long commute to work everyday, the M5 would be my choice (it was nice being able to drive more than one other person in the car with me). But I am not married, my company picks me up for work, and I don’t have kids to haul around to baseball and football practice.

Also, you have to take in consideration the collector’s value. The M5 has dropped 75% in value since new (as almost all BMW’s do) and will continue to drop, but the M Coupe is destined to rise in value as the years go on. If you can own both cars, do it. They are both awesome in their own respect, but the Coupe is my favorite between the two.

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S54 M Coupe vs Volvo P1800, Jaguar XKE, E36 M3, E46 M3C

September 4th, 2010 Comments off

Don Eilenberger has had the fortune to own some very nice cars over the years including his current S54 M Coupe. Here’s how they compare:

I’m on my second M-Coupe now. Had one in ’99 when they first came out, now have an ’01 S54 one.

Volvo P1800

Other cars of some interest I’ve owned (or own) – lots of Volvo P1800’s (S’s and an E). A 2,700lb car with 115-130HP. 0-60 was actually respectable for it’s time, a tad over 10 seconds (fast was ANYTHING under 12..) Handling was where the P1800 came into it’s own. Even with skinny 180-15 tires on it, it outhandled almost any sports car of the era that wasn’t a Ferrari, or.. Jag, which was my next neat car. The P1800’s set me up for 2 seat sports cars, with a short overhang, and the driver seat closer to the rear wheels.

1965 Jaguar XKE Roadster

Had a ’65 XKE Roadster. The view down the hood of the M-Coupe is about identical to the XKE view, except the XKE had functional  louvers in the hood and chrome washer jets – plus 3 wipers.

Handling was outstanding for narrow tall tires, ride quality was excellent due to the full independent suspension (rare at the time), and performance – the car weighed less then 3,000lbs, and had an honest 275HP 4.2Liter straight 6 in it. It did 0-60 in something like 7 seconds, outstanding for it’s time. Top speed was 150MPH, again, outstanding for the time. Mine would do an honest 140MPH with the top down.

Jaguar XKE 4.2 Performance

The driving experience of the XKE, bear-trap clutch pedal, direct no-power steering comes closest to the M-Coupe. It was a raw visceral car, easily capable of chirping the tires in 2nd gear at 40MPH, something I resist doing in the M-Coupe (but I’m sure it would if I turned off the DSC.)

1998 E36 M3

That car started my love of I6 engines. I owned a lot of BMWs through the years, but one other favorite worth comparing to the M-Coupe was the E36/M3. Had a convertible with the S52 engine and 5-Speed ZF. Much like the M-Coupe the grip on corners never stopped, and the S52 engine could pull like a freight train. It had a certain raw quality to it compared to the current E46/M3 convertible, which is much more civilized than the M-Coupe.

2002 E46 M3 Convertible

I now own 2 M’s, the M-Coupe and the ’02 M3C. If I was given the choice of only owning one of them, the M-Coupe is the keeper. The E46/M3C is my winter beater.. 🙂

There is more power in the E46/M3C, but it’s used less effectively (more weight by about 400lbs does that..) The shifter in the M-Coupe is far superior to the M3 shifter (which was fully reworked during a clutch job recently), having a much more precise pattern. Clutch on the M3 takes about 1/2 the effort of the M-Coupe, but the M-Coupe beats itfor feel once I removed the rubber hose (and restrictor) and replaced it with a flexible stainless hose.

I saw mention of the exhaust note on the coupe – I love it. It’s deep and not obnoxiously loud. Unfortunately – I also love the “rasp” the M3is imfamous for – it’s such a great mechanical sound I wish the M-Coupe had a bit of it (although it has attracted some undesired LEO attention once or twice.)

M3 radio, HVAC, seats, interior room, interior finish quality all beat out the M-Coupe, but it doesn’t actually matter. The M3 is a bit too civilized to really make my blood rush. The M-Coupe is a perfect combination of raw motoring and performance for me. That’s why I’m on my 2nd one. I bought this one after test driving one for a friend who was considering buying one, and I remembered just how much fun the M-Coupe was. It still is, and it’s usually the one I pick to drive if I don’t take my BMW bike to work.

If you have a comparison to share, please send it to me at jon@mcoupebuyersguide.com and I’ll post it.

Market Update – September 3, 2010

September 3rd, 2010 2 comments

This week’s overview of what’s happened in the M Coupe market.

Currently Listed: 67
S52: 39
S54: 28
Average Asking Price: $25,337.66
S52: $20,437.16
S54: $32,053.15

Most Popular Sales Listings

These are the cars that have been viewed most often this week:

2001 Imola Red over Imola Red in Portland, OR

2001 Imola Red over Imola Red
Portland, OR - $29,000+

2001 Black Sapphire over Black in Pittsburgh, PA

2001 Black Sapphire over Black
Pittsburgh, PA - $24,500

2002 Black Sapphire over Imola Red in Washington, DC

2002 Black Sapphire over Imola Red
Washington, DC - $23,000

2001 Estoril Blue over Dark Gray in Franklin, TN

2001 Estoril Blue over Dark Gray
Franklin, TN - $37,875

Best Deals

These are what I think are the best deals still available that are not already on the most popular list.

2000 Titanium Silver over Black in Gilbert, AZ

2000 Titanium Silver over Black
Gilbert, AZ - $19,500

2000 Oxford Green over Black in Santa Ana, CA

2000 Oxford Green over Black
Santa Ana, CA - $16,000

2002 Titanium Silver over Black in Pearland, TX

2002 Titanium Silver over Black
Pearland, TX - $27,500

2000 Titanium Silver over Estoril Blue in Providence, RI

2000 Titanium Silver over Estoril
Providence, RI - $17,000

Sold This Week

Here are the cars that appear to have gone to lucky new owners this week. There were a lot of them, and almost all had solid black interiors.

* Sold within the week

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S54 M Coupe vs C6 Corvette

September 2nd, 2010 1 comment

S54 M Coupe vs C6 Corvette

Taka recently purchased (stole) this beautiful black sapphire metallic 2001 M Coupe and is fortunate to also own a 2005 Corvette in millenium yellow. In his words, here’s how they compare:

The Corvette is a lot of fun to drive, but in a very different way. I think the car is more suited to use at a road course, especially if it’s not too tight, so you can really stretch the car’s legs and use that V-8 for what it’s worth. It’s definitely a lot faster than the M- having another 85 hp and only 200 lbs. would do that. My car has long tube headers, exhaust and will eventually have an intake and a tune, so I’d say it probably has a tad more than 400hp- I could feel the difference in power output even with the stock tune when I added the headers. I also never had traction issues with the stock manifolds (esp. with 305 Bridgestone RE-11), but I do now that I have the headers installed.

However, turn-in is much slower in the Corvette (the big difference in wheelbase is probably why) and you don’t get the feedback from the wheel and the seat of your pants that you do in the M- it’s more blind faith to really push the Corvette hard. It doesn’t help that the seats suck- they’re comfy on long trips but they give you zero lateral support- I’m really tempted to buy a Recaro Pole Position and use it as the normal seat so I don’t have to brace myself driving the car. The M’s seats are much more supportive- I don’t feel like I’m sliding around when I push the car a little. Note that I used to daily drive my Miata with a Recaro Profi SPG (the narrower seat compared to the Pole Position) and I’m not a skinny guy.

The exhaust note is much better in the Corvette- it sounds like thunder when you open the throttle. The BMW I-6, while being exemplary in its smoothness, has a terrible exhaust note- whatever BMW did to the S38, that engine sounds awesome. The S54 has none of that. Reminds me more of a big motorcycle engine.

The control interface is generally better in the Corvette- I find the pedal arrangement to be much better- I have a lot of trouble heel-and-toeing the M- the brake pedal and the accelerator are on a vastly different plane. The shifters in both cars suck- the Corvette shifter is heavy, imprecise and notchy (I made it even notchier and heavier switching to the MGW shifter, but a great deal more precise- I still think it shifts like a truck); the BMW shifter is very light (which is okay), has very little self-centering and the gates don’t feel precise (I’m thinking about getting a UUC Evo 3 to fix that). If you’ve driven a Miata or a S2000, you’ll know what I mean when the shifters in those cars are damn near perfect.

I also miss not having tilt and telescope adjustment in the M, as well as seat tilt, which a lot of people complain about.

With all of that, I think the M Coupe is a much more entertaining car to drive than the Corvette. I’m a little afraid that I’m not going to keep the Corvette (I’ve wanted one for years though and I’ve always wanted an American V-8 sports car) because the BMW is more involving to drive. Tactile feedback is better, the powerband is ridiculously good (I can lug it from 1500 rpm and wind it out to 7600, I don’t know any other car that can do that) and the handling is quite good (but can really be scary- this car will definitely bite you if you screw up). I doubt that I’d get rid of the Corvette, though- the only car I could think of replacing it with is a Porsche 997 GT3RS or possibly a C6 Z06 with Z07 (carbon ceramic brakes from the ZR1, shocks from ZR1, wheels and roof from ZR1).

They’re pretty much sports cars from very different perspectives and I count myself to be very fortunate to have both.

If you have a comparison to share, please send it to me at jon@mcoupebuyersguide.com and I’ll post it.

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