About this Site

May 16th, 2014

After 5+ years of searching for the perfect BMW M Coupe, I had not found it, but I had learned a lot about them and about the market.  While waiting for my perfect coupe to show, I thought I would share some of my insight with other potential M Coupe buyers.  This site will contain some basic information about what to look for in an M Coupe as well as links to current sale ads and my thoughts on them.  Feel free to leave comments as I am not an expert and am always happy to learn more about the car I love.

Now that I have finally found my coupe, I will be posting more articles on upgrades and modifications as I research and install them. It has also motivated me even more to help others like me find their perfect coupe. Enjoy!

  1. May 4th, 2010 at 15:34 | #1

    Nice site Jon! Looking forward to reading more posts from you. Best of luck in the hunt for your M Coupe.

    • May 4th, 2010 at 16:25 | #2

      Thanks a lot. Glad you’re enjoying your LSB coupe; it’s looking great. It’s probably the one that tempted me the most to stray from my steel gray/imola hunt.

  2. Geoff
    May 17th, 2010 at 09:47 | #3

    One thing I noticed, the second to last listing, Black with Estoril interior is not factory black, it’s a repaint. When it was first posted I was curious about how rare the color combination was and looked up the VIN in the data base. Turns out it was originally Titanium Silver.

    You’ve created a great site here. I agree with your comments on Avus95’s ’99 with the euro engine conversion. I’ve never seen it in person but it gets a lot of praise from people who have. Thanks for all the effort you’ve put into this.

  3. May 17th, 2010 at 11:22 | #4

    Great catch Geoff. I’ll update the comments, that changes my opinion of it a lot.

  4. Bobu
    May 18th, 2010 at 19:08 | #5

    Thank you for your wonderfully informative website. I’m shopping to buy an M coupe. I’ve seen and/or driven some of the cars on your site, and I’ve discussed some others with their owners(caretakers?). I found these cars by searching the web and your compilation of information is invaluable and far more comprehensive and enlightening than anything a newbie like me could produce. Thanks for your comments and links to others too.
    Your buyers guide is among the best on the web for any item!
    Cordially, Bob

    • May 18th, 2010 at 21:09 | #6

      Thanks a lot. If you have any comments you think would be helpful about the cars you’ve driven and researched, let me know and I can add them.

  5. Bill
    May 22nd, 2010 at 22:46 | #7

    Great site with lots of good info, thanks. Although I am an M Coupe fan I am actually searching for the “perfect Z3 coupe” for my wife (she wants an automatic). If anyone comes across a good one let me know.
    Thanks,
    Bill

  6. Ryan
    May 24th, 2010 at 16:23 | #8

    This is awesome. Please don’t ever remove this from the web….I couldn’t find half of these on my own….

  7. Linds
    June 1st, 2010 at 00:45 | #9

    Great site! I am impressed with all your research.

  8. Bob Epstein
    June 7th, 2010 at 15:28 | #10

    Could you allow me to ask your advice about these cars? Your work is comprehensive and enlightening. I’m going to buy one of these cars, and the insights I gained from you helped make me feel good about proceeding.
    Cordially, Bob

  9. George Philbrick
    June 8th, 2010 at 12:45 | #11

    How do I respond to one of the sellers listed on your site?

    • June 8th, 2010 at 13:52 | #12

      Just click on one of the links under the “Sale Listings & Links” section of the car’s page. I didn’t want to post other people’s contact information without their approval, so I decided to just link to their official classified ads. If the ad(s) are gone, it may have sold and I didn’t notice yet. If it’s just a CraigsList ad that has expired (rather than deleted) let me know and I may have the contact information for that car somewhere.

  10. Scott
    June 9th, 2010 at 19:40 | #13

    It is hard enough to look for a car in which you love and respect for its contribution. Having asked/ web-searched until I was lost in the www I finally came across your site. Thanks for not only taking action to do this but provide good insight as well. I look forward to connecting and learning from other M-Coupe enthusiast in the times ahead. If you need any help please let me know.

    Regards
    Scott B….

  11. Shin
    June 14th, 2010 at 17:37 | #14

    Love the site. I’ve wanted an M for some time now. I didn’t realize there was a community that shared my abnormal fascination for this particular auto. The KBB/bank -to- collectors value disparity is certainly a problem, and so I’ll be socking away some cash and selling my daily driver (07 Charger Daytona sublime green) before committing to any one in particular. It’s so hard not to just pull the trigger on some of these examples for sale right now, though; hopefully supply will still be plentiful when my time comes. Cheers

  12. Alber
    June 15th, 2010 at 21:48 | #15

    Hello Jon, I just found your site today. It’s great! An amazing homage for an amazing car. I hope to own one of the 01/02 models one day myself. Question: Why is the sunroof delete so desirable? Is it just because it’s rare? More painted surface to wax? Or does it affect the structural rigidity and make for better handling? Anyway I’ve been in and out of your pages and you’ve got an amazing amount of info. I actually started my search for an M recently by seeing these two ads from the Toronto area, and I thought I would forward them to you. Each is interesting, 1st one because of the Phoenix Yellow colour being so rare. And 2nd ad claims special status, by being 5 of 12 pre-production models sent to NA with the S54. I’ve attached 2 links for the Phoenix Yellow car and 1 for the other Estoril Blue car.

    http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Car_details/WOODBRIDGE_Ontario_2002_BMW_M%2bCOUPE_1831606.html?srcID=19&frnID=2345261&prv=Ontario&r=40

    http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134024

    http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Car_details/RICHMOND+HILL_Ontario_2001_BMW_M%2bCOUPE_1831029.html?srcID=19&frnID=2340648&prv=Ontario&r=40

    Good luck with your search for your perfect coupe!
    Alber

  13. Lone Star
    June 16th, 2010 at 15:28 | #16

    I also inquired about the steel gray coupe @ CarMax. Sent CarMax an email early this morning(approx. 3hrs before they opened). I then went over to the local CarMax and attempted to put a deposit down and have it transferred to Texas. They stated a “walk-around” was currently being done for someone in Cincinnati. I knew exactly who it was. Oh well; early bird gets the worm. Enthusiast Auto may close early today. Great site by the way.

  14. Michael Rice
    June 18th, 2010 at 11:54 | #18

    Thanks for creating and maintaining such an informative website.
    I currently own a rare car of another breed – a 1974.5 (rubber bumper) MGB-GT. Supposedly only 1254 GT’s imported with rubber bumpers that first year, then no longer imported.
    As much as I like my little british car, I like the Z3 Coupe even more.
    Learning that the M Coupe exists only fuels my desire to replace my 4 cylinder, 4 speed GT with one of these 6 cylinder 5 speed beauties. The fact that they have air condiitoning is a bonus.
    Don’t know when, if ever, I will be able to make the upgrade, but I know where to look when I can.

  15. Brian Rummer
    June 18th, 2010 at 18:30 | #19

    Jon I found your site a week ago and have been on it daily since. All the information and search tools you have put together are amazing. Thanks for the site and sorry about the car max car and good luck.

  16. Damian
    June 23rd, 2010 at 15:26 | #20

    Thank you, this site is amazing

  17. Zengineer
    June 26th, 2010 at 22:32 | #21

    Great service, thank you so much for maintaining this site!

  18. JR
    July 4th, 2010 at 10:47 | #22

    Great site!! Hope to buy one in the nxt 12 months. May have to “settle” for a S52, but I do love that engine in my M3.

  19. Brian
    July 6th, 2010 at 17:53 | #23

    Just wanted to inform my 99 M Coupe you have shown from craigs list add has been sold. Please move to sole area of site. Thanks

    • July 6th, 2010 at 23:05 | #24

      Thanks for the update and congrats on the sale! It’s now marked as sold.

  20. Damian
    July 9th, 2010 at 09:55 | #25

    Hey Jon,

    got some more information on this listing (http://listings.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listing.aspx?ListingID=129)

    “· I would describe as immaculate

    · I purchased from a client of mine, car originally from California

    · All synthetic oil for engine, trans and differential

    · Have the OEM rims also

    · “Remus” stainless steel exhaust and Ferodo brakes “

  21. Pierre
    July 13th, 2010 at 20:37 | #27

    How many 2001-2002, S54 M Coupe are salvage?

    • July 13th, 2010 at 21:37 | #28

      I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m tempted to get an unlimited AutoCheck history report account and try to run all the VINs, but I’m not sure they’d like that. Maybe someday…

  22. Ulash
    July 16th, 2010 at 16:54 | #29

    Jon, what a great source! I think I’ll be in the market for an M Coupe very soon. Currently own a Z3 1.9 and sold my E46 M3. Time to put these two cars together. Will be checking the FS ads very often. Also, I wouldn’t mind contributing to your work. The domain / hosting etc. have to be paid. I believe most people wouldn’t mind donating a small amount after all the info here. Thanks again.

    • July 16th, 2010 at 17:19 | #30

      I appreciate it! Let me know what you’re looking for and I’ll keep an eye out for you.

  23. Pierre
    July 19th, 2010 at 08:23 | #31

    How many 2001-2002 S54 were produced for the Canadian market?

    • July 19th, 2010 at 15:17 | #32

      There were 11 S54 coupes produced for Canada including the two pre-production cars.

  24. Will
    July 20th, 2010 at 12:35 | #33

    No affiliation, just found these two at a dealer on the East Coast. No Pricing listed but thought I would post for someone to look into if interested…

    http://gambacortahighline.ebizautos.com/detail-2002-bmw-m-coupe-used-2890656.html

    http://gambacortahighline.ebizautos.com/detail-2002-bmw-m-coupe-used-4188512.html

    • July 20th, 2010 at 22:23 | #34

      Thanks for the heads up. Those two have actually been listed for years. Someone called about them a while ago and heard the dealership closed over a year ago. The listings are just kind of floating around out there now.

  25. Damian
    July 20th, 2010 at 18:21 | #35

    1 of the CND Mcoupes is pending to me right now, big thanks to Jon for all ur help

    Vin Lookup is a nice touch to the site

    • July 20th, 2010 at 22:26 | #36

      Congrats on the purchase. I’m glad you like the VIN look up. I’ve always thought those stats were interesting and always look them up myself, so I thought I’d make them available to everyone.

  26. Pierre
    July 22nd, 2010 at 21:27 | #37

    Great site Jon I which I would of found this site 6 month ago. I bought a 2001 MCoupe very
    nice, but i might of bought a diff. one if I would of found this site.

    • July 22nd, 2010 at 23:20 | #38

      Thanks Pierre. I heard through Glenn that you bought the silver one from Enthusiast Auto right?

  27. Pierre
    July 23rd, 2010 at 05:15 | #39

    Yes, what was your take on that one?

    • July 24th, 2010 at 16:03 | #40

      To be honest, I didn’t look at it very closely because it wasn’t in my color combination, and I didn’t have the site setup yet.

  28. Kevin
    July 24th, 2010 at 11:41 | #41

    Hey, Jon, now Gambacorta has your favorite combo along with mine (Grey over Gr/Bl). I saw that the recent addition was in Colorado as late as April, I wonder how he scooped you and EA for that one? Have you made an offer on the newest one yet? Do they seem okay to deal with, reputation aside? Thanks, KD

    • July 24th, 2010 at 16:00 | #42

      The steel gray over gray car actually sold a while ago, and they just haven’t updated their listings in forever. The coupe owner is actually the dealership owner’s son who lives about 30 minutes from me. He’s an M Coupe fanatic who also owns a <5,000 mile estoril blue over gray coupe as well. He's owned 7 of them over the years. They thought it would be easier to sell through the dealership so it's being shipped to Delaware :-(. There's a chance they may keep it on the truck and bring it back to me :-). I'm definitely working on it. He bought it a couple years ago directly from a good friend so it was never on the market. Both Mario and his dad John Gambacorta seem very nice to deal with. It's listed a little over what I have to spend, and I'm really hoping we'll be able to work something out.

  29. July 24th, 2010 at 22:41 | #43

    new favorite site!

    i want one sooo bad.

  30. July 24th, 2010 at 22:43 | #44

    Did you see the Steel Gray one that was on Auto Trader via Carmax a few weeks ago? It was way underpriced and sold in about 4 hours. Carmax had no idea what they were sitting on and I missed it by an hour. DAMN!

    Some guy in Cleveland got it i think. Any more details?

  31. Josh
    August 3rd, 2010 at 11:30 | #46

    Jon – This is a great site / resource it really is amazing what you have put together. Congrats on your car, looks gorgeous. I had a 2000 black w/ black/grey, no sunroof which I unfortunately had to sell about 4 years ago. I am currently looking for a 2001/2002, do you (or anyone else out there) have any idea if there is a way to get financing? All the banks say they will only finance a 2003 or newer car. Thanks for any input. – Josh

    • August 3rd, 2010 at 12:35 | #47

      Yeah, the banks were pretty much worthless to me as well. Credit Unions are definitely the way to go. The one I went with was willing to give 90% of NADA value which was significantly better than blue book as well as adjust my loan-to-value ratio and interest rate (which is already lower than any bank I talked to) after I get an appraisal. Wells Fargo didn’t even call me back. You’ll still need to have $10k plus in cash as no one will give you more than $21-$23k for any coupe regardless of condition and mileage. Now to find a local auto appraiser that has a clue…

  32. Josh
    August 3rd, 2010 at 16:08 | #48

    Thanks Jon, I’ll take a look at some credit unions. I have approx 20k in cash, just need the other 10k….

    • August 3rd, 2010 at 16:56 | #49

      Yep, you should easily be able to find financing with that big of down payment. Good luck with the search.

  33. Will
    August 9th, 2010 at 13:48 | #50

    Jon,

    FYI—I called about the 01 Black M in Hunterdon NJ. They are asking $16,900, it has a sunroof and the rear subframe has been checked out.

  34. August 9th, 2010 at 14:54 | #51

    Terrific website. Thanks for your efforts. In my search for my M Coupe, initially I thought, like many folks, I wanted a black, red, white or silver car…. Then I took inventory of the some of the fun cars I’ve owned over the years, and remembered that I’ve had 4 black cars (3 ‘vettes and a Sunbeam Tiger) , 4 red cars (Toyota Supra, Mustang Convert, an old Volvo, and a ’32 Ford 5-Window) and 3 white cars, an early ’60s Pontiac Grand Prix, a Porsche, and a BMW 525iT.

    I viewed hundreds of photos online of M Coupes and came to the conclusion THAT:
    I’ll take mine in Boston Green, thank you. It’s definitely time for something a little different….

    Keep up the good work.

    • August 10th, 2010 at 08:52 | #52

      Thanks a lot. Boston Green sounds like a great plan and a classic color. They’re usually somewhat hard to find, but there are a couple nice examples for sell at the moment.

  35. August 15th, 2010 at 21:38 | #53

    The 99 Estoril from MO with 123k is also listed on nasioc.com for $13,500 instead of $14,900 on CL.

  36. Tom
    August 22nd, 2010 at 11:38 | #55

    Jon, I’ve got to thank you for your tremendous website. I had been looking for a coupe for well over a year when I came across your site with the article “Honorable Mention – The Non-M Coupe” on the 2001 Z3 coupe that was selling on Bimmerforums. Long story short, its now in my garage and it exceeds all my expectations on how much fun a car can be to drive. I probably would have missed the opportunity to buy it without your site, so thanks again.

    • August 22nd, 2010 at 20:30 | #56

      I’m so glad to hear that coupe went to a great home. I always thought it was one of the best looking Z3 Coupes. Congrats on a great purchase!

  37. Will
    August 25th, 2010 at 12:39 | #57

    Jon, ever seen this?

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1088959.htm

    Only $75,000!

    • August 25th, 2010 at 12:52 | #58

      Yeah, someone posted that on Bimmerforums a couple months ago. I’m far from sold on the looks, but that engine and 6-speed transmission are pretty crazy. It’s also cool that it’s legitimately one of a kind and originally owned by Herbert Hartge himself.

  38. GeraldKealakai
    September 5th, 2010 at 22:58 | #59

    Hello.

    Found your website the other day after I purchased (unsucessfully) a 2001 M Coupe from a Portland Jaguar dealer.

    Looked at your site this afternoon and saw that you posted a Roadfly ad for a 2002 M Coupe, sliver/black, with 41,200 miles – fantastic! I e-mailed then called the owner, Hayden, and the car sounds great as well as the photographs, so I sent Hayden a $300 Paypal deposit. The plan is to fly to Hayden’s place in V.A. on Wednesday, pay for and pick up the car.

    Thanks for doing these M Coupe listings.

    Gerry

  39. September 8th, 2010 at 11:45 | #61

    Great website! Came across this in my search for an M Coupe. These guys are harder to come across than the R32s that I was previously chasing down. Im in the DC area and am looking at the Evergreen M Coupe you have on the FS page.

    Good stuff!!

  40. MSLAYDEN
    October 12th, 2010 at 20:08 | #62

    I love your site! I check back every few days for anything new. No doubt you have the most comprehensive information on the net. This WILL be the next purchase I make. Thanks for the useful information and the inspiration.

    If you would allow, I just would like to add my 2cents about a car that you’ve commented on. This past Sunday I drove the Estoril blue one in Franklin, TN. This guy is a BMW fanatic and has a no-nonsense coupe. It is perfect… and CRAZY fast. I agree that his asking price will take a while to get. But in his defense, this is a truely fantastic coupe. He absolutely spared no expense on the upgrades. If Marvin watches this site, I thank you for letting me check it over. Fantastic! and good luck.

    Thanks Michael

    • October 13th, 2010 at 08:49 | #63

      Thanks for your 2-cents Michael. I added your review to the listing.

  41. Rupert Knor
    October 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 | #64

    The new issue of ” 0-60″ Fast Cars magazine (Fall 2010) has a nice article on MCoupes pages 25,26,27. Keep up the great work on your website. Rupert

  42. Rudy
    October 27th, 2010 at 22:32 | #66

    Has anyone pdf’d a brochure or order form for the BMW M Coupe? I have searched and found nothing but eBay ads to buy the real thing. I was looking at a 2001 and was wondering what the available options were if any.

    • October 28th, 2010 at 07:13 | #67

      Not that I’ve seen. I’ve looked for both as well. I have the 2000 brochure that I hope to scan and post eventually. Maybe I’ll ask around and see if anyone else would be willing to scan their brochures.

  43. Bill VH
    November 10th, 2010 at 14:49 | #68

    Jon,

    This one has been sold. Don’t know when or at what price.
    http://goodstuffauto.com/inventory/9991/9991.htm

  44. rupert knor
    November 22nd, 2010 at 19:00 | #70

    Anybody know who owns this, and the story?
    2000 BMW Z3 M Coupe Parts or Salvage – $7000 (san jose north

    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/2074273845.html

    • November 23rd, 2010 at 01:35 | #71

      I haven’t heard anything else about it yet, but Josh S on Bimmerforums would be a great person to check it out in person.

  45. David
    December 2nd, 2010 at 14:49 | #72

    Hey Jon, I relisted my 99 Imola M Coupe on CL after months of waiting for two separate buyers to “get their money right”. Be sure to let Mcoupebuyersguide.com shoppers know they can get a discount by mentioning your site!! This car is a great deal.

    • December 2nd, 2010 at 15:02 | #73

      Awesome David, I’ll be sure to mention it. Sorry the other buyers didn’t work out.

  46. December 2nd, 2010 at 16:47 | #74

    Hey Jon thanks for the great site.

    I found a car thanks to you. Purchase has been completed. I need to get the car from the seller to me. I thought I had a solid quote and the shipping company is using the bait and switch technique. Now they want more money for the same job. What is your best advice on shipping one of these great machines?

    • December 2nd, 2010 at 16:58 | #75

      Congrats on your purchase! I learned through my shipping disaster to just pay for the best and save all the worrying and headaches. I’ve heard only good things from everyone who has ever used Intercity Lines. I would get a quote from them. Which coupe did you buy?

  47. Bryson
    December 7th, 2010 at 06:04 | #76

    This is a really great, really helpful site. Wow. Excellent research, great advice on not just finding, but maintaining an M coupe. Hats off!

    One more thing, and forgive me if this seems an odd question. On occasions I need to take my 60 lb. dog to the vet, is there enough room in the cargo area to accomodate a crate of the following dimensions: 36″L x 23″W x 25″H? I don’t know what the measurements of the cargo space are, nor if there is any way to tie items down/secure them. Although I did find this picture here: http://www.z3roadster.com/i/mc/04.jpg, that bad boy isn’t really secured.

    Thanks.

    • December 7th, 2010 at 09:41 | #77

      We have a 60 lb Weimaraner that I’m pretty sure would fit by herself (although I’ll never let her), but I don’t think there’s any way a crate would fit. The hatch is surprisingly spacious though and there are tie downs along the sides and one under the hatch. I measured mine and it was approximately 34″W (it narrows towards the front) x 24.5″D x 25.5″H. The problem is the hatch opening has a pretty decent sized lip that would make getting anything over 20″ tall challenging to get in.

  48. Tom
    December 11th, 2010 at 12:50 | #78

    Jon,
    I’ve owned and enjoyed a 2000 Imola M Coupe for four years, but I found your website about a year ago and I return to read the listings several times a month. Thanks for the great job you’re doing—-it is a public service to all M Coupe owners, keeping us current on the state of the market and satisfying our interest in this unique automobile. Someday I’ll upgrade to an S54 or supercharged S52, and I’ll find it on this site. Tom

    • December 12th, 2010 at 08:52 | #79

      Thanks a lot for the kind words Tom. I’m glad you’re enjoying the site. Send me an email when you’re looking to upgrade. I’ll be happy to help.

  49. Alex
    December 16th, 2010 at 00:19 | #80

    i bought this coupe that you have on your site! besides a few minor fixes, headlights, some interior, trunk shocks, door lock , this car drives amazing! I just upgraded the brakes, getting coilovers, The car was driven in Las Vegas so the under carriage looks great! Verry Happy with this buy! it is my first coupe

    you are right about the oranage! hmmm i honestly thought that it was due to fading from the sun? i still think it is evn tho the vin sai different?

    http://listings.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listing.aspx?ListingID=31

    • December 16th, 2010 at 13:03 | #81

      Congrats on the purchase! That has always been one of my favorite color combinations because it was the colors of one of the first M Coupe photo cars. I’m glad it’s working out for you.

  50. Richie
    December 16th, 2010 at 17:05 | #82

    Jon, any recommendations on “someone” that can look at the 00 M coupe in Colorado for me ;).

    It’s hard purchasing and making arrangements from overseas.. Hook a Military guy up.

    Thanks..

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