About this Site
May 16th, 2014
After 5+ years of searching for the perfect BMW M Coupe, I had not found it, but I had learned a lot about them and about the market. While waiting for my perfect coupe to show, I thought I would share some of my insight with other potential M Coupe buyers. This site will contain some basic information about what to look for in an M Coupe as well as links to current sale ads and my thoughts on them. Feel free to leave comments as I am not an expert and am always happy to learn more about the car I love.
Now that I have finally found my coupe, I will be posting more articles on upgrades and modifications as I research and install them. It has also motivated me even more to help others like me find their perfect coupe. Enjoy!
Nice site Jon! Looking forward to reading more posts from you. Best of luck in the hunt for your M Coupe.
Thanks a lot. Glad you’re enjoying your LSB coupe; it’s looking great. It’s probably the one that tempted me the most to stray from my steel gray/imola hunt.
One thing I noticed, the second to last listing, Black with Estoril interior is not factory black, it’s a repaint. When it was first posted I was curious about how rare the color combination was and looked up the VIN in the data base. Turns out it was originally Titanium Silver.
You’ve created a great site here. I agree with your comments on Avus95’s ’99 with the euro engine conversion. I’ve never seen it in person but it gets a lot of praise from people who have. Thanks for all the effort you’ve put into this.
Great catch Geoff. I’ll update the comments, that changes my opinion of it a lot.
Thank you for your wonderfully informative website. I’m shopping to buy an M coupe. I’ve seen and/or driven some of the cars on your site, and I’ve discussed some others with their owners(caretakers?). I found these cars by searching the web and your compilation of information is invaluable and far more comprehensive and enlightening than anything a newbie like me could produce. Thanks for your comments and links to others too.
Your buyers guide is among the best on the web for any item!
Cordially, Bob
Thanks a lot. If you have any comments you think would be helpful about the cars you’ve driven and researched, let me know and I can add them.
Great site with lots of good info, thanks. Although I am an M Coupe fan I am actually searching for the “perfect Z3 coupe” for my wife (she wants an automatic). If anyone comes across a good one let me know.
Thanks,
Bill
This is awesome. Please don’t ever remove this from the web….I couldn’t find half of these on my own….
Great site! I am impressed with all your research.
Could you allow me to ask your advice about these cars? Your work is comprehensive and enlightening. I’m going to buy one of these cars, and the insights I gained from you helped make me feel good about proceeding.
Cordially, Bob
How do I respond to one of the sellers listed on your site?
Just click on one of the links under the “Sale Listings & Links” section of the car’s page. I didn’t want to post other people’s contact information without their approval, so I decided to just link to their official classified ads. If the ad(s) are gone, it may have sold and I didn’t notice yet. If it’s just a CraigsList ad that has expired (rather than deleted) let me know and I may have the contact information for that car somewhere.
It is hard enough to look for a car in which you love and respect for its contribution. Having asked/ web-searched until I was lost in the www I finally came across your site. Thanks for not only taking action to do this but provide good insight as well. I look forward to connecting and learning from other M-Coupe enthusiast in the times ahead. If you need any help please let me know.
Regards
Scott B….
Love the site. I’ve wanted an M for some time now. I didn’t realize there was a community that shared my abnormal fascination for this particular auto. The KBB/bank -to- collectors value disparity is certainly a problem, and so I’ll be socking away some cash and selling my daily driver (07 Charger Daytona sublime green) before committing to any one in particular. It’s so hard not to just pull the trigger on some of these examples for sale right now, though; hopefully supply will still be plentiful when my time comes. Cheers
Hello Jon, I just found your site today. It’s great! An amazing homage for an amazing car. I hope to own one of the 01/02 models one day myself. Question: Why is the sunroof delete so desirable? Is it just because it’s rare? More painted surface to wax? Or does it affect the structural rigidity and make for better handling? Anyway I’ve been in and out of your pages and you’ve got an amazing amount of info. I actually started my search for an M recently by seeing these two ads from the Toronto area, and I thought I would forward them to you. Each is interesting, 1st one because of the Phoenix Yellow colour being so rare. And 2nd ad claims special status, by being 5 of 12 pre-production models sent to NA with the S54. I’ve attached 2 links for the Phoenix Yellow car and 1 for the other Estoril Blue car.
http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Car_details/WOODBRIDGE_Ontario_2002_BMW_M%2bCOUPE_1831606.html?srcID=19&frnID=2345261&prv=Ontario&r=40
http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134024
http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_Car_details/RICHMOND+HILL_Ontario_2001_BMW_M%2bCOUPE_1831029.html?srcID=19&frnID=2340648&prv=Ontario&r=40
Good luck with your search for your perfect coupe!
Alber
I also inquired about the steel gray coupe @ CarMax. Sent CarMax an email early this morning(approx. 3hrs before they opened). I then went over to the local CarMax and attempted to put a deposit down and have it transferred to Texas. They stated a “walk-around” was currently being done for someone in Cincinnati. I knew exactly who it was. Oh well; early bird gets the worm. Enthusiast Auto may close early today. Great site by the way.
I wrote out my full experience trying to buy that coupe here.
Thanks for creating and maintaining such an informative website.
I currently own a rare car of another breed – a 1974.5 (rubber bumper) MGB-GT. Supposedly only 1254 GT’s imported with rubber bumpers that first year, then no longer imported.
As much as I like my little british car, I like the Z3 Coupe even more.
Learning that the M Coupe exists only fuels my desire to replace my 4 cylinder, 4 speed GT with one of these 6 cylinder 5 speed beauties. The fact that they have air condiitoning is a bonus.
Don’t know when, if ever, I will be able to make the upgrade, but I know where to look when I can.
Jon I found your site a week ago and have been on it daily since. All the information and search tools you have put together are amazing. Thanks for the site and sorry about the car max car and good luck.
Thank you, this site is amazing
Great service, thank you so much for maintaining this site!
Great site!! Hope to buy one in the nxt 12 months. May have to “settle” for a S52, but I do love that engine in my M3.
Just wanted to inform my 99 M Coupe you have shown from craigs list add has been sold. Please move to sole area of site. Thanks
Thanks for the update and congrats on the sale! It’s now marked as sold.
Hey Jon,
got some more information on this listing (http://listings.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listing.aspx?ListingID=129)
“· I would describe as immaculate
· I purchased from a client of mine, car originally from California
· All synthetic oil for engine, trans and differential
· Have the OEM rims also
· “Remus” stainless steel exhaust and Ferodo brakes “
Thanks for the update. It’s noted.
How many 2001-2002, S54 M Coupe are salvage?
I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m tempted to get an unlimited AutoCheck history report account and try to run all the VINs, but I’m not sure they’d like that. Maybe someday…
Jon, what a great source! I think I’ll be in the market for an M Coupe very soon. Currently own a Z3 1.9 and sold my E46 M3. Time to put these two cars together. Will be checking the FS ads very often. Also, I wouldn’t mind contributing to your work. The domain / hosting etc. have to be paid. I believe most people wouldn’t mind donating a small amount after all the info here. Thanks again.
I appreciate it! Let me know what you’re looking for and I’ll keep an eye out for you.
How many 2001-2002 S54 were produced for the Canadian market?
There were 11 S54 coupes produced for Canada including the two pre-production cars.
No affiliation, just found these two at a dealer on the East Coast. No Pricing listed but thought I would post for someone to look into if interested…
http://gambacortahighline.ebizautos.com/detail-2002-bmw-m-coupe-used-2890656.html
http://gambacortahighline.ebizautos.com/detail-2002-bmw-m-coupe-used-4188512.html
Thanks for the heads up. Those two have actually been listed for years. Someone called about them a while ago and heard the dealership closed over a year ago. The listings are just kind of floating around out there now.
1 of the CND Mcoupes is pending to me right now, big thanks to Jon for all ur help
Vin Lookup is a nice touch to the site
Congrats on the purchase. I’m glad you like the VIN look up. I’ve always thought those stats were interesting and always look them up myself, so I thought I’d make them available to everyone.
Great site Jon I which I would of found this site 6 month ago. I bought a 2001 MCoupe very
nice, but i might of bought a diff. one if I would of found this site.
Thanks Pierre. I heard through Glenn that you bought the silver one from Enthusiast Auto right?
Yes, what was your take on that one?
To be honest, I didn’t look at it very closely because it wasn’t in my color combination, and I didn’t have the site setup yet.
Hey, Jon, now Gambacorta has your favorite combo along with mine (Grey over Gr/Bl). I saw that the recent addition was in Colorado as late as April, I wonder how he scooped you and EA for that one? Have you made an offer on the newest one yet? Do they seem okay to deal with, reputation aside? Thanks, KD
The steel gray over gray car actually sold a while ago, and they just haven’t updated their listings in forever. The coupe owner is actually the dealership owner’s son who lives about 30 minutes from me. He’s an M Coupe fanatic who also owns a <5,000 mile estoril blue over gray coupe as well. He's owned 7 of them over the years. They thought it would be easier to sell through the dealership so it's being shipped to Delaware :-(. There's a chance they may keep it on the truck and bring it back to me :-). I'm definitely working on it. He bought it a couple years ago directly from a good friend so it was never on the market. Both Mario and his dad John Gambacorta seem very nice to deal with. It's listed a little over what I have to spend, and I'm really hoping we'll be able to work something out.
new favorite site!
i want one sooo bad.
Did you see the Steel Gray one that was on Auto Trader via Carmax a few weeks ago? It was way underpriced and sold in about 4 hours. Carmax had no idea what they were sitting on and I missed it by an hour. DAMN!
Some guy in Cleveland got it i think. Any more details?
Yep, lots :-): Here Today, Gone Today
Jon – This is a great site / resource it really is amazing what you have put together. Congrats on your car, looks gorgeous. I had a 2000 black w/ black/grey, no sunroof which I unfortunately had to sell about 4 years ago. I am currently looking for a 2001/2002, do you (or anyone else out there) have any idea if there is a way to get financing? All the banks say they will only finance a 2003 or newer car. Thanks for any input. – Josh
Yeah, the banks were pretty much worthless to me as well. Credit Unions are definitely the way to go. The one I went with was willing to give 90% of NADA value which was significantly better than blue book as well as adjust my loan-to-value ratio and interest rate (which is already lower than any bank I talked to) after I get an appraisal. Wells Fargo didn’t even call me back. You’ll still need to have $10k plus in cash as no one will give you more than $21-$23k for any coupe regardless of condition and mileage. Now to find a local auto appraiser that has a clue…
Thanks Jon, I’ll take a look at some credit unions. I have approx 20k in cash, just need the other 10k….
Yep, you should easily be able to find financing with that big of down payment. Good luck with the search.
Jon,
FYI—I called about the 01 Black M in Hunterdon NJ. They are asking $16,900, it has a sunroof and the rear subframe has been checked out.
Terrific website. Thanks for your efforts. In my search for my M Coupe, initially I thought, like many folks, I wanted a black, red, white or silver car…. Then I took inventory of the some of the fun cars I’ve owned over the years, and remembered that I’ve had 4 black cars (3 ‘vettes and a Sunbeam Tiger) , 4 red cars (Toyota Supra, Mustang Convert, an old Volvo, and a ’32 Ford 5-Window) and 3 white cars, an early ’60s Pontiac Grand Prix, a Porsche, and a BMW 525iT.
I viewed hundreds of photos online of M Coupes and came to the conclusion THAT:
I’ll take mine in Boston Green, thank you. It’s definitely time for something a little different….
Keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot. Boston Green sounds like a great plan and a classic color. They’re usually somewhat hard to find, but there are a couple nice examples for sell at the moment.
The 99 Estoril from MO with 123k is also listed on nasioc.com for $13,500 instead of $14,900 on CL.
Thanks a lot David! It’s noted.
Jon, I’ve got to thank you for your tremendous website. I had been looking for a coupe for well over a year when I came across your site with the article “Honorable Mention – The Non-M Coupe” on the 2001 Z3 coupe that was selling on Bimmerforums. Long story short, its now in my garage and it exceeds all my expectations on how much fun a car can be to drive. I probably would have missed the opportunity to buy it without your site, so thanks again.
I’m so glad to hear that coupe went to a great home. I always thought it was one of the best looking Z3 Coupes. Congrats on a great purchase!
Jon, ever seen this?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1088959.htm
Only $75,000!
Yeah, someone posted that on Bimmerforums a couple months ago. I’m far from sold on the looks, but that engine and 6-speed transmission are pretty crazy. It’s also cool that it’s legitimately one of a kind and originally owned by Herbert Hartge himself.
Hello.
Found your website the other day after I purchased (unsucessfully) a 2001 M Coupe from a Portland Jaguar dealer.
Looked at your site this afternoon and saw that you posted a Roadfly ad for a 2002 M Coupe, sliver/black, with 41,200 miles – fantastic! I e-mailed then called the owner, Hayden, and the car sounds great as well as the photographs, so I sent Hayden a $300 Paypal deposit. The plan is to fly to Hayden’s place in V.A. on Wednesday, pay for and pick up the car.
Thanks for doing these M Coupe listings.
Gerry
Awesome Gerry! I’m glad you ended up finding a great deal on an S54 coupe after losing out on the previous one. Send some pics when you get it home!
http://listings.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listing.aspx?ListingID=166
Great website! Came across this in my search for an M Coupe. These guys are harder to come across than the R32s that I was previously chasing down. Im in the DC area and am looking at the Evergreen M Coupe you have on the FS page.
Good stuff!!
I love your site! I check back every few days for anything new. No doubt you have the most comprehensive information on the net. This WILL be the next purchase I make. Thanks for the useful information and the inspiration.
If you would allow, I just would like to add my 2cents about a car that you’ve commented on. This past Sunday I drove the Estoril blue one in Franklin, TN. This guy is a BMW fanatic and has a no-nonsense coupe. It is perfect… and CRAZY fast. I agree that his asking price will take a while to get. But in his defense, this is a truely fantastic coupe. He absolutely spared no expense on the upgrades. If Marvin watches this site, I thank you for letting me check it over. Fantastic! and good luck.
Thanks Michael
Thanks for your 2-cents Michael. I added your review to the listing.
The new issue of ” 0-60″ Fast Cars magazine (Fall 2010) has a nice article on MCoupes pages 25,26,27. Keep up the great work on your website. Rupert
Thanks Rupert, I’ll keep an eye out for the article.
Has anyone pdf’d a brochure or order form for the BMW M Coupe? I have searched and found nothing but eBay ads to buy the real thing. I was looking at a 2001 and was wondering what the available options were if any.
Not that I’ve seen. I’ve looked for both as well. I have the 2000 brochure that I hope to scan and post eventually. Maybe I’ll ask around and see if anyone else would be willing to scan their brochures.
Jon,
This one has been sold. Don’t know when or at what price.
http://goodstuffauto.com/inventory/9991/9991.htm
Thanks for the update Bill.
Anybody know who owns this, and the story?
2000 BMW Z3 M Coupe Parts or Salvage – $7000 (san jose north
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/2074273845.html
I haven’t heard anything else about it yet, but Josh S on Bimmerforums would be a great person to check it out in person.
Hey Jon, I relisted my 99 Imola M Coupe on CL after months of waiting for two separate buyers to “get their money right”. Be sure to let Mcoupebuyersguide.com shoppers know they can get a discount by mentioning your site!! This car is a great deal.
Awesome David, I’ll be sure to mention it. Sorry the other buyers didn’t work out.
Hey Jon thanks for the great site.
I found a car thanks to you. Purchase has been completed. I need to get the car from the seller to me. I thought I had a solid quote and the shipping company is using the bait and switch technique. Now they want more money for the same job. What is your best advice on shipping one of these great machines?
Congrats on your purchase! I learned through my shipping disaster to just pay for the best and save all the worrying and headaches. I’ve heard only good things from everyone who has ever used Intercity Lines. I would get a quote from them. Which coupe did you buy?
This is a really great, really helpful site. Wow. Excellent research, great advice on not just finding, but maintaining an M coupe. Hats off!
One more thing, and forgive me if this seems an odd question. On occasions I need to take my 60 lb. dog to the vet, is there enough room in the cargo area to accomodate a crate of the following dimensions: 36″L x 23″W x 25″H? I don’t know what the measurements of the cargo space are, nor if there is any way to tie items down/secure them. Although I did find this picture here: http://www.z3roadster.com/i/mc/04.jpg, that bad boy isn’t really secured.
Thanks.
We have a 60 lb Weimaraner that I’m pretty sure would fit by herself (although I’ll never let her), but I don’t think there’s any way a crate would fit. The hatch is surprisingly spacious though and there are tie downs along the sides and one under the hatch. I measured mine and it was approximately 34″W (it narrows towards the front) x 24.5″D x 25.5″H. The problem is the hatch opening has a pretty decent sized lip that would make getting anything over 20″ tall challenging to get in.
Jon,
I’ve owned and enjoyed a 2000 Imola M Coupe for four years, but I found your website about a year ago and I return to read the listings several times a month. Thanks for the great job you’re doing—-it is a public service to all M Coupe owners, keeping us current on the state of the market and satisfying our interest in this unique automobile. Someday I’ll upgrade to an S54 or supercharged S52, and I’ll find it on this site. Tom
Thanks a lot for the kind words Tom. I’m glad you’re enjoying the site. Send me an email when you’re looking to upgrade. I’ll be happy to help.
i bought this coupe that you have on your site! besides a few minor fixes, headlights, some interior, trunk shocks, door lock , this car drives amazing! I just upgraded the brakes, getting coilovers, The car was driven in Las Vegas so the under carriage looks great! Verry Happy with this buy! it is my first coupe
you are right about the oranage! hmmm i honestly thought that it was due to fading from the sun? i still think it is evn tho the vin sai different?
http://listings.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listing.aspx?ListingID=31
Congrats on the purchase! That has always been one of my favorite color combinations because it was the colors of one of the first M Coupe photo cars. I’m glad it’s working out for you.
Jon, any recommendations on “someone” that can look at the 00 M coupe in Colorado for me ;).
It’s hard purchasing and making arrangements from overseas.. Hook a Military guy up.
Thanks..
Emailed.