About this Site
May 16th, 2014
After 5+ years of searching for the perfect BMW M Coupe, I had not found it, but I had learned a lot about them and about the market. While waiting for my perfect coupe to show, I thought I would share some of my insight with other potential M Coupe buyers. This site will contain some basic information about what to look for in an M Coupe as well as links to current sale ads and my thoughts on them. Feel free to leave comments as I am not an expert and am always happy to learn more about the car I love.
Now that I have finally found my coupe, I will be posting more articles on upgrades and modifications as I research and install them. It has also motivated me even more to help others like me find their perfect coupe. Enjoy!
Just purchased a 99 Black M coupe!! Took awhile for the right opportunity came along. Site was very helpful. Prolly paid to much, but serendipity makes it hard to haggle.
Congrats Jason! It’s worth whatever it’s worth to you. I thought I paid too much for mine at the time too, and I have not regretted it once. Enjoy your new coupe!
Just wanted to thank you for the awesome site! I found (and purchased) my M Coupe because of the site! I was looking into a s2000 at the time and my buddy, after a conversation about M Coupes, stumbled on this site and sent it over to me.
Now, I’m the happy owner of a 2000 BMW M Coupe (purchased in October, out of Philly, ~80k/miles).
You might not hear it enough, but awesome job on the site! I’m sure there are many more out there who now have a coupe only because of this awesome, awesome resource.
I appreciate it Greg, and I’m glad you ended up with a coupe. It seems like that one was a pretty good deal too. I’m glad to hear my site was helpful
Hi, Jon. We’ve corresponded a couple of years ago. I was wondering if you might have an update on the 2000 Estoril/Oregon coupe in Pittsburg. I’m a little confused since it appeared to be sold but then is on again in, I think, November. Thanks for any info.
Geoff
Hey Geoff! As far as I know, it’s still available.
Hi, Jon…I’m the owner of a silver/black 2000 M convertible, located in the Bay Area California. It has only 8700 miles on it. I would like to upgrade to a similar low-mileage coupe. In other words, I will have to get rid of the convertible in order to buy the coupe. Are you aware of any owners out there who would be willing to do a trade (with additional cash), or will I have to sell my roadster first and look for a coupe later? Thanks, Roland
Emailed you Roland
Jon, please email me. I have a question for you. Thanks.
Emailed you Jeff
Jon,
i totaled my 2000 m two weeks ago. Purchased only 5 months ago with 77,000 miles, for $16,000. excellent condition in and out, I thought it was a great deal.. I just received the settlement offer from State Farm in the sum of get this “$13,895” I obviously declined their offer. They said if I provided comps., they’d re-evaluate . The only guideline they used to determine the price was N.A.D.A., nothing else. This confirms that nada is not current on their pricing. I explained the rarity, comparing the production numbers of my production year to 7,500 Ferrari 383 Spiders, 33,000 corvettes produced same year to give them a better understanding. thought you might like this info.
Also, I contacted the dealership in San Antonio about the newest listing for the ’99 coupe you posted today, and had them email a few photos. Looks very nice, and I’d be happy to forward you . Lastly, if you know of anyone in the San Antonio area that may be available to inspect this car for me, please put them in touch with me, as i’m in the market for a replacement, but live outside Philadelphia and cannot do this myself. Thanks, Mark
Sorry to hear about your coupe Mark. Yep, NADA is definitely way off now. KBB is decently accurate since they updated their prices to match my stats. I’ll email you.
Jon, I read on one of the forums what you are thinking of doing with the site and I just want to tell you your plans are incredible. The 99 Imola Red on Imola Red that I purchased from Arkansas over the phone without seeing it has proved to be a great buy. I purchased the car for $11500.00 if you want to update your records. I have now performed the following, Belts, Complete fluid change, Tires, Seat Bushings, New Steering Wheel, New factory Gear shift lever, Clutch Pedal Bushings, Complete Suspension replaced with Bilstein Sports, Control Arms, shock tower mounts, Tie Rods, Bushings etc etc, repaired the small dent in rear quarter panel, painted front bumper, painted and repaired the wheel scuffs, new mats, switched back radio to stock bmw cd player, installed a Pax bluetooth ipod system that operates through the bmw stereo, valve cover gasket, windshield wipers, rear trunk struts, clutch, flywheel and all the remaining clutch parts and new tint. Needless to say this has brought the car up to the average sale price, but I have enjoyed doing the work and now practically have a new car that runs and drives like new. Although initially I was not looking for a red coupe I am so happy I purchased it as I recently found and bought my next project a Imola Red on Imola Red 2000 e39 m5 so they match. If there are any events coming up this year towards Florida let me know would love to meet you. Thanks for an incredible site that sounds like its just going to get better.
You do have just about a brand new coupe. That sounds like it was a great buy. I’ll email you too.
Newly listed ’02 Titanium Silver coupe @ BMW of The Woodlands, TX is sold. I went to inspect it today for a possible purchase, but I was too late. I think it is going to Enthusiast Auto, but I could be wrong. Interior is blue, not gray. Needs detailing. No scratches on bumpers, just dirt and stains. One wheel has bad curb rash; the rest are just dirty. New Kumho tires all around.
Thanks for the update! I don’t think it’s Enthusiast Auto as he said they were not calling him back. The bumper scratches comment was actually meant for the other 36k mile silver S54 coupe, and I just posted them to the wrong listing. Thanks for pointing that out. Did you happen to notice the VIN number? I wonder if they posted it incorrectly. Do you know if the interior was laguna seca or estoril blue?
Jon I have a car fax of the 2000 Oxford green m coupe with black leather the place a better way wholesale autos our scam artisti put a 1000 down to hold the car as I’m from New York and its in Connecticut ,then the salesman won’t return my calls and when someone does pick up there very nasty and say they don’t know where the salesman is even though he faxed me a bill of sale less then two minutes ago, won’t allow me to have PPI on car …I strongly suggest anyone who looking at this car to go look in person and bring a mechanic! So sad Jon I’ve been looking for two years now ill never get one…I hate to see someone get taken for a ride the car looks so great too I just can’t risk it…
That’s terrible Matt. I’ll definitely let people know. Keep me updated.
Salesman called me back to explain something’s then told me that they never inspected the vehicle them selves which is a load of crap I’ve never heard of a dealership not doing there own PPI on the car before taking it on a trade in, and said his guys were checking over it as we speak said the right window doesn’t work A/C needs work etc.. I only suggest people who are absolutely in love with the color combo who are willing to take the good and the bad with this vehicle the salesman said he had two other men waiting to see if I bought it i told the salesman let them have it as they are local and get judge for them selves
Jon, great site. I NEED NEED NEED a coupe. I have a timeline to pick one up around late fall, 2013. Gives me plenty of time to get educated! Any chance you can e-mail me privately and I can pick your brain about some questions I have? Thanks in advance, I probably visit your site twice a day!
Emailed you Dawn
Hi Jon, I am going to be getting a low milage (24k miles) white coupe, I would like to talk to you as this car is like new and I may not be keeping it. Do you have a # i can call you to get more information?
MIke
Sure thing. I’ll email you my contact information.
Hi, sorry for what may be a silly question but how do I post my M coupe for sale on this site. I could not find a link anywhere to do that…Thanks. I have a dakar yellow 2000 with 43K miles
Usually, I just pull the ads from AutoTrader, Craigslist, Ebay, etc. You can also email me your listing at jon@mcoupebuyersguide.com, and I’d be happy to post it.
Wow that will be three Dakar Yellows for sale this month nice……
I am a bit confused about your site. If I find a car how do I find the seller to buy it? The car that looks good to me is:
1999 BMW M Coupe Rare
These cars are incredibly rare.
Wake Forest, NC
Please help, Neil McCord
For that specific one, you can use the email address associated with the Craigslist ad or PM the seller through the Bimmerfest listing.
Wow, sure glad to have found your website, Jon. I’ve finally decided to sell my car, and just started to do research about how best to sell it. I remember the good old Roadfly days when the Cartel just got started, and it’s great to know that some are keeping the flame alive. So keep your eyes open for an Auto Trader ad for this: 2002 M-Coupe; Estori Blue; black/gray interior; sunroof delete; 16,500 miles. What would the Cartel price be for that, LOL?
Thanks for keeping this site current!
I know 3 people off the top of my head that may be interested. I’ll email you my thoughts on pricing.
Jon, I really like this site and am glad that I stumbled upon it. I was fortunate enough to purchase an Imola Red 2002 M-Coupe brand new, but had to part with it back in 2006. While doing a random search, I found a sales listing for my car on your website where it was listed and sold in a private sale last August. I am very interested in buying the car back, but am wondering what is the best way to contact the current owner and if this can be accomplished through your site. Let me know what your thoughts are. Thanks.
I emailed you Maurice. I hope it works out!
Hi Jon, I replied to the Craigslist listing for the 2002 M Coupe, Mileage: 51,978, from Ridgewood, NJ, but have not heard back from the owner. I sent two emails, over the last week. I’m not sure if they are getting them. Do you have another way of getting in touch with them?
I’ll ask the one guy I know who has had direct contact with him. I’ll let you know.
Hi Jon,
I have a question regarding a Z Coupe — would you please email me when you have a chance?
Thanks for your help!
Emailed you Justin
Hi Jon,
I clicked on the link in this listing and it gave me an error message. Is there a way to see it without being a signed up member?
http://www.z3coupebuyersguide.com/listings/listing.aspx?ListingID=2126
Thanks.
The link should be fixed now, but unfortunately the coupe is already sold.
Hi Jon,
I came across your website as I’m at the beginning of the learning curve of understanding and working towards (hopefully) purchasing an M coupe in the not too distant future. I had a couple of rookie questions and was wondering if you didn’t mind answering when you had time. #1 – is the rear structure cracking (shock towers/diff area) that I’ve been reading about, a common problem and is it easily noticeable, expensive to fix, come from driving the car too hard? #2 – are there any other issues you’ve come across that should be carefully looked at before purchasing.
Excellent website and thanks for your time.
Rod
This thread would be a good one as far as knowing what to look for: http://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/index.php/2010/06/buyers-checklist/. I kind of think the subframe issues have been blown a little out of proportion. Hard driving definitely is part of it, but it has happened to garage queens too. It’s not typically a catastrophic occurrence, so it’s repairable the same way it’s preventable. How to spot problems is pretty much covered in the link above. The other main issue (that only applies to S54 coupes) is the rod bearings. It’s also covered in the article in more detail.
Found this on a local forum and didnt see it listed on your listings
http://www.vadriven.com/forums/import-europe-67/2000-bmw-z3m-coupe-467744/
Thanks Robb. I hadn’t seen that one yet.
Many thanks. I’ll stay in touch and keep you up to date on my search.
Rod
Hi Jon – A complaint from one of the Ungrateful!!
On your Sales Listings > Search Listings tool, if I click on SubFrame Reinforcement = Yes (without specifying anything else), the full list of all 56 cars is returned, even though there are only 6 cars meeting the criteria. Seems that particular filter isn’t hooked up ….. the filter might need some “reinforcement” 🙂
Great site; you’re a great public servant for the M Coupe lover. I’m waiting to get a “Yes” back on an offer I made on one of these beauties.
best,
Dan
Thanks for letting me know Dan. I’ll get it fixed tomorrow. Hope your offer works out!
Hey Jon….just put my baby up for sale. Thought I’d pass it along. Price is high but they don’t get much better than this car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281097443998#ht_1721wt_1182
Looks awesome Chris. I’ll get it posted ASAP.
Hello!
I thought you might like my most recent blog post. I finally found my “unicorn” after being a regular reader of the site. Thank you for all your hard work.
Neil
http://discommon.com/2013/04/my-eleanor-the-z3-m-coupe/
I loved it Neil! I’m glad you finally found your unicorn. I’d love to double-post it if you don’t mind. Inspiring coupe stories are my favorite.
Jon, double post away! If you don’t mind linking to mine, that would be great. Your site is fantastic, thank you for the effort, I loved my hunt.
Thanks Neil. I’ll definitely link to your original post.
Fantastic amount of information made available. Somewhat simplistic question. Been searching for s54 with low miles. Under 25k. I am guessing that I shouldn’t even think about finding an unmolested one for under $30k. Thanks, McKim
Probably not anymore. With <25k miles you're probably looking at at least $35k unless you get lucky. What color(s) are you searching for?
Dark but flexible. Is a sunroof really that much of a negative?
Not a negative at all. I like mine. Sunroof-deletes are just special because they make up just 15% of the total production.
Thanks very much. I will let you know how I do. Great site. McKim
Just spoke with the owner of the Estoril Blue coupe on craigslist and he told me it is no longer for sale and sold this weekend at the asking price of $11,900. That coupe is also mentioned in the questions section of the ebay listing for the Topline Auto Cosmos Black car (77,000 miles). It appears that they were offering a car that sounds like the same car this week for $12,900.
Thanks for the update Greg. I saw that estoril photo on their Ebay listing too. Looks like it’s up to $14,900 now which is hopeless. I’ve been waiting for them to formally list it.
I’m about to list my 2000 coupe on eBay. Before I did, I thought I’d confirm what I believe to be true about your site. By appearances, you do not actually accept listings, but rather, you scour listings from other places (eBay, Craigslist…) and aggregate them here for the convenience of your readers?
Do I have that right? Or, do you actually accept listings from sellers? If you do, I’ll submit mine directly to you before going to eBay.
Thanks,
Bob
Either way. I’m happy to post listings as well. You can just send me an email with a description and photos to jon@mcoupebuyersguide.com.
Jon, first off…FANTASTIC site. I visit the site everyday, just can’t get enough of staring at M-Coupes. 🙂 I’m also starting to get back into the market to pick up another M-Coupe. I’ve been out of my ’99 for 8 years now which is WAY too long! Anyway quick question for you (or anyone else on here really).
Being that the M-Coupes are now at least 11+ years old, how are people financing these vehicles? Or is everyone just paying cash? Seems unlikely people are forking over $30k+ cash. From my research, used car auto loans generally only will be extended to a buyer on cars up to 10 years old. And even if they do give you a loan, it will be restricted to the NADA retail value of the car. I looked up the NADA value of a 2001 M-Coupe with 35k miles and it comes in at ~$14k-$15k.
Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated!
Financing is pretty tough. I went with a local credit union and they were great to work with. They were even willing to look at my price/mileage charts: http://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/research/prices.aspx. Also KBB prices have come up about 40% in the last couple years so they are pretty accurate for S52s and closer for S54s. NADA and Edmunds are still terrible though. You can also make the case (in some cases) that it is a collectible car that will give you a little more leniency. I’d plan to at least have ~$10k for a down payment though. Good luck!
Hi, I am just starting to look at a replacement for the old 92 G-Wagen I’ve been driving for a dozen years. It was a great vehicle. I’ve always loved the look of these but really don’t know that much about them. When you are rating these on rarity, what exactly is the criteria for what makes them rare? I will probably have 20-25k that I could put towards one. I’d appreciate whatever advise you have. What a neat little car.
My rarity rating is based on number produced in that color combination, which engine it has (bonus for S54s) and whether or not it has a sunroof (bonus for sunroof-delete). Here are a few articles on what type of things to look for: http://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/index.php/category/lookfor/. Feel free to email me at jon@mcoupebuyersguide.com with any specific questions.
This website is pretty amazing, been on here the last two months now trying to find my unicorn.
What’s your unicorn? I’d love to help!
hey john
I have been watching this sight every say for months and have a question about the rarity of a 2000 m3 coupe in Dakar yellow sunroof delete with Imola red interior.
Thanks Jamie
Emailed you Jamie
I have been a 911 guy for 20 plus years owning about 2 dozen air cooled 911’s in that time. The prices on them have gotten silly at this point. I started looking around at M Coupes. The last BMW I owned was the last car I bought brand new, a 1990 E30 M3, and I still regret selling it.
Fantastic site I really appreciate the work you have done here, it’s been a huge help. I do have a couple questions if you have the time…
1) What’s with the Pac North West? Why so many cars there?
2) I have a 7 year old and I noted that one seller listed his car as having a disable switch for the passenger airbag. Do most, many, all or few of these S52 Coupes have that feature? Is there a simple remedy so my son could ride up front?
Thanks again for such a fantastic job!
Sincerely,
Howard
I found out about your site about 3 wks. ago! Just a fabulous site (service) you provide ! I loved why you set it up ! I too , decided to find a cpe. , having had facial cancer removed a few wks. ago. I now own a 99 Dinan M3 convert. with 60,000 mi. (like new) that the doctor said I shd. sell due to my 77yr. old face . Soooo, that’s how I got intersted in purchasing a cpe. Gotta ask you a question about the next to the last listing . I could not figure out how to contact the seller, in Summerlin , NV. , if his cpe was still avail. I imagine not , since the last update you have posted is 4/13 . I wld. appreciate any infor. etc. you might have on this owner . Thks. again for your good work! Hope it pays off for me , Bruce 919-724-1313
hey john, found these M coupes around my area. thought you should know. 🙂
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/3925944458.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ctd/3937853348.html
Thanks JR. I’m not sure why they relisted them, but they sold long ago. I even know the new owner of one of them.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/3939086661.html
Way out of my price range, but thought you’d want to know.
Thanks! That’s a nice one from a good owner.
My wife and I took delivery of a 2000 Imola Red Coupe this past weekend. We purchased it from a dealer in Eugene, OR and had it shipped to Atlanta, GA. It has 97K mi, the body is exceptionally clean and the interior (all black) is maybe very good. It’s basically stock with a moon roof. The previous owner pretty well hacked in a iPod interface without too much damage to the interior. It came with a cassette player – only- and – of course – no code. Any ideas on the best way to get a code? Seems like there are a lot of theories floating around. The rear view mirror is wack so I am going to try out the service found on the site to get it repaired. The power seats also have some issues – the cable on the drivers seat to adjust the tilt is out of sorts and the passenger seat will not raise or lower. It seems like the motor is getting juice but is frozen. My mechanic is going to look at it next week. I would be happy to provide a picture and purchase details for the site. I also am going to reluctantly put my 98 M3C on the market soon. Great site! Thanks for making it happen.
Thanks for the update Ed and congrats on the new coupe! Most dealers can get you the code if you have the serial number from the back of the unit. There is some discussion on other ways to unlock it here: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?959458-Radio-Code/page12&highlight=radio+code, and the user BradK works at a dealership and is often willing to look up codes for people.
Not too sure about the seats but often it’s just a loose connection. Usually removing the seats, disconnecting each connection, adding some electronics gel, and re-connecting the connection cures most seat issues.
Hi Jon, do you have the contact info for the newly listed 2002 BMW M Coupe in Steel Gray from Fall River, MA?
Emailed you Ann
I bought an M coupe from this young man last year. It is a real dog, not at all as advertised, I could not even register it this year because of all the undisclosed problems. Do your homework! I was in so in love with this car that I did not do the smart thing and have it really checked out, I trusted the seller. Buyer beware.
Which coupe did you buy? What was the seller’s name?
Have a question for ya ? I have a opportunity to buy a 2002 BMW z3 coupe for 5k. Hasn’t been started since 2006 Been sitting in the driveway outside. Is this a good deal ? Never have worked on a BMW before
How many miles does it have? If less than 100k, and you think you can get it running again, it seems like it would be worth a try.
Jon: Hope all is well, wondering if you can offer some assistance, purchased a factory radio from ebay great condition and installed worked great. Then I had to replace battery and of course radio required a code. Went to dealer and they tried to put in the code and it wouldnt work and the unit locked. Anyway I figured out the radio I purchased was from Europe and only requires a 4 digit code. The unit is now unlocked via leaving key in ignition for an hour but now the unit is in the USA mode and requires 5 digits. Does anyone know how to put the radio back to European mode so that It displays only 4 digits to enter?
Hey Gary. Unfortunately I do not have too much radio coding experience and am not sure what the trick is for that.
Jon: I am sure you heard but might help other buyers, we discovered that the sub frame was cracked on my Coupe along with the differential bracket so were putting a Randy Forbes kit on it with the Rogue Engineering two mounting bracket diff cover. We are taking pictures of the damage and the whole process so anyone interested can look at it. Bottom line is if your car feels loose on the rear end it shouldn’t and its a good idea to check the diff hanger which from the factory is welded in one place only. Due to the power this tends to crack and pull the spot welds from trunk floor. As Jon knows this is my third coupe and the only one it has happened to although the previous two were very low mileage models.
Sorry to hear that Gary, but glad you are going the Randy Forbes route. I look forward to seeing the photos.
Thanks for your help. I bought the Roadster that was listed in Vegas. I would like to find a mechanic in the Malibu area that can help me take care of the car. Also I think it can get off the line a little bit faster then it is. Any ideas on what might be holding it back speed wise? I am still looking for a coupe. I think I want a 2001 or 2002. Do you think it is worthwhile to pass on earlier models because of the bigger engine if you are looking for speed?
It depends on how much speed you are looking for. The S54 will have more power out of the box, but the S52 takes to supercharging/turbocharging much better and more cheaply. You may want to check out the Eurosport twin-screw supercharged one that’s currently on the market: http://www.mcoupebuyersguide.com/listings/listing.aspx?ListingID=2705. If I were looking for power in an M Coupe, I’d lean towards this exact setup.
As for a good local shop, the only one I’m very familiar with remotely close to you is Minicorsa in North Hollywood. One of the guys is a very knowledgeable coupe owner (and his coupe has 600+ horsepower).
Hey Jon, hope all is well! Just a quick heads up that I noticed that the “Sale Listings” and “Research” tabs no longer appear on the home page. If I click a listing on the homepage, then those 2 tabs show up on the listing page. Seems to happen in both IE and Firefox.
Thanks Scott. We had a hacker on our server that messed up some of our WordPress sites. I got most of the guides back up, but there are still a few tweaks I need to redo. Trying to get the paying customers sorted out first :-).
Good morning Jon, I have a entrepreneurial concept that I would like to bounce off of you as I consider you the the most informed expert on the Z -3’s please give me a call at your earliest convenience, I am not looking for money. I think you may find this interesting look forward to speaking with you Mark 435-901-8165
I want to make a contribution to your site for my own information is your entity a nonprofit Thanks for doing a wonderful job. I am full of questions this morning you can see what I have been spending time on, due to the fact that the prices are finally going up faster than the used car evaluation books. I have been looking at insurance which they refer to it as Agreed Value it appears to be the best way to ensure fair compensation if the cars get totaled what is your opinion,plus suggestions do you have. Thanks again Mark